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OCZ Agility 3 240GB 2.5IN SATA3 Sandforce SF-2281 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive

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Subject: Work With Dell XPS M1330?
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Christopher_d Apr 16, 2012 05:10 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Wondering if this is a good fit for a HDD upgrade on my '08 XPS M1330

Topic URL: http://forums.ncix.com/forums/topic.php?id=2497351

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Charles_N Jun 13, 2012 02:55 AM Reply | Bookmark
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yes it is and you will have no issues with ocz great choic

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Black Obsidian Jun 13, 2012 05:16 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Oh hai, first-time-poster claiming that OCZ is a great choice. Tell me, how do you feel about, say... artificial lawn substitutes?

More OT, LSI would be the best one to confirm, but I think OCZ has finally worked out the firmware issues with their Sandforce drives. If that's the case, this should be a decent, if rather undistinguished, choice. Although, since your M1330 only supports SATA2, you wouldn't see the benefit of a faster drive anyway.

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Chicoman Jun 13, 2012 05:43 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Lol, I wonder if that was sarcasm

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Lsi Jun 14, 2012 12:35 AM Reply | Bookmark
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That Dell will have an Intel SATA controller and is virtually guaranteed to be running AHCI mode from the factory in that era / product class. If anything, I'd update  its BIOS to the latest version as well as update  the Intel RST drivers just to make sure you're getting optimized AHCI performance as SSD's were a rarity in those days so things weren't pushing the limits of the interface.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=20624

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Lsi Jun 14, 2012 12:41 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Current BIOS for your machine (shown on boot screen) is A15 and I've confirmed it uses Intel Matrix Storage Manager (RAID/AHCI software's name before it became RST).

If you plan to use the stock drive inside for something, you should make sure its firmware is updated before you pull the drive as there were updates for both Seagate and Samsung models. I updated a lot of Seagates in Dell laptops in that era for excessive actuator noise issues that the firmware resolved.

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Lsi Jul 16, 2012 08:16 PM Reply | Bookmark
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I had compatibility problems today with an Agility 3 240GB running firmware 2.22 on a Dell Vostro 3700 (Intel SATA2, AHCI mode, latest firmware). It would BSOD under load with crystal diskmark testing with Intel RST 10.6, but when I upgraded to 11.1 it would no longer BSOD but would hang with the drive light on. This suggested to me that the issues lay with the Dell, so I brought it back to find something compatible. I've since confirmed the drive was fine as the same drive with its image load tests fine on my AMD AHCI 12.6 SATA3 platform. I had pretested the drive under load and with full drive writes and a secure reset after, so I had my doubts the drive was defective.

I've had compatibility issues similar to this in the past on Intel SATA2 with OCZ SSDs, albeit with a Vertex 2. In both of those cases I used an Intel 320, but they aren't exactly price competitive to use in this scenario. Those machines were a Dell Optiplex desktop (AHCI mode) and a custom built with an ASUS motherboard (non-AHCI mode), always with their latest M/B firmware.

I'm trying with a Crucial M4 256GB (fw 000F) on it tonight as a Mushkin Chronos Deluxe wouldn't seat into the laptop. This is a frequent problem with the Chronos Deluxe...as much as they have nice build quality, I've had problems mounting both that product as well as the Callisto Deluxe inside laptops due to their chassis dimensions. They definitely need to work on that issue for laptop compatiblity.

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Lsi Jul 16, 2012 09:33 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The M4 worked, but all random write performance was severely degraded. The source of the problem is definitely the laptop, but the Agility couldn't compensate for it enough to be stable.

M4 256GB CDM on my AMD AHCI SATA test platform:
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 478.583 MB/s
Sequential Write : 280.181 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 386.556 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 283.305 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 16.751 MB/s [ 4089.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 69.858 MB/s [ 17055.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 191.879 MB/s [ 46845.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 235.331 MB/s [ 57454.0 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [D: 0.0% (0.1/238.5 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/07/16 19:38:42
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

CDM performance with data image on Vostro 3700, Intel SATA2 AHCI mode on Intel RST 11.1:
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 229.197 MB/s
Sequential Write : 203.016 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 196.402 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 161.399 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 13.384 MB/s [ 3267.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 6.574 MB/s [ 1605.0 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 123.068 MB/s [ 30045.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 6.377 MB/s [ 1556.9 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 37.0% (82.8/223.8 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/07/16 21:09:55
OS : Windows 7 SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x86)

I've seen similar capping on my Acer TimeLineX laptop's Intel SATA2 re: the sequential scores (vs desktop chipsets hitting closer to 270MB/sec), but the Dell definitely has some severe issues with random writes in AHCI mode that my laptop doesn't have, and not all SSD drives can deal with apparently. I've forwarded the diagnostic scenario to OCZ support.

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Lsi Jul 16, 2012 09:35 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The latest BIOS running on this Dell Vostro 3700 which is showing these symptoms is circa late 2010.

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Lsi Jul 16, 2012 10:05 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Agility 3 with same data image, tested on my AMD SATA3 platform, showing its performance with the same data set:

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 453.014 MB/s
Sequential Write : 366.849 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 405.844 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 332.356 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 22.922 MB/s [ 5596.3 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 16.438 MB/s [ 4013.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 128.412 MB/s [ 31350.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 102.188 MB/s [ 24948.2 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [E: 39.6% (82.8/208.9 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/07/16 20:22:42
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

Tested with zeroes, so showing best case performance in this state of fill. I find the low random QD=1 score rather odd, compared to the drive when empty:

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 452.883 MB/s
Sequential Write : 437.271 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 407.061 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 413.660 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 25.148 MB/s [ 6139.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 76.588 MB/s [ 18698.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 202.276 MB/s [ 49383.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 263.333 MB/s [ 64290.4 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [D: 0.0% (0.1/223.6 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2012/07/16 22:01:03
OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)

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Lsi Jul 22, 2012 03:45 PM Reply | Bookmark
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I ran into another compatibility issue with this drive today with a Vantec Nexstar CX eSATA/USB2 enclosure. In the end I had to install the Agility 3 internally and move the old internal drive to the USB enclosure, otherwise Acronis 2011 imaging would fail with read-write errors during the transfer. I've reported the bug to OCZ, along with the previous one mentioned above.

On another note, as per usual buggy Acronis True Image 2011's bootable ISO (latest 6942 rev) misaligned the main partition as there was a Dell diagnostic partition on the drive before the main one. Anyone imaging with SSD's or advanced format hard drives should never trust Acronis' claimed 4k sector alignment support when imaging. I got fed up with their bugs and haven't upgraded to the new 2012 version yet...tired of giving them money for products they never fix properly after multiple revisions and marketed specifically with 4k partition alignment support. If you are imaging with a magnetic drive, misaligned partitions are a SEVERE performance hit on random writes.

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Lsi Jul 22, 2012 03:51 PM Reply | Bookmark
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This Nexstar CX compatibility issue was with the latest OCZ firmware 2.22, and on a Dell Latitude D620 with current firmware A10 (Intel SATA1 non-AHCI).

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