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Western Digital WD Caviar Green 3TB SATA3 3.5IN 64MB Cache Intellipower Internal Hard Disk Drive

Western Digital WD Caviar Green 3TB SATA3 3.5in 64MB Cache Intellipower Internal Hard Disk Drive
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Subject: Good for esxi?
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Hotshot Sep 30, 2011 05:41 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Anyone use these in ESXi? Do either the "Green" of the fact its 3TB SATA give ESXi any issues?

edit: And I will even install ESXi and images on these (I do not care for speed, they are NAS and eventually pfSense)



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William_L Sep 30, 2011 06:05 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Nah, get a BlACK or at very least blue, I would never install any os on green drive, I did it once, and it was horribly slow.

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Hotshot Sep 30, 2011 06:28 PM Reply | Bookmark
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well im more concerned about compatibility... right now speed is not a big deal since im only doing NAS... my last ESXi install was done on a USB 2 drive.

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Entz Sep 30, 2011 07:07 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Are you passing them directly to the VM or using them in the host?

I haven't used green drives (refuse to), let alone 3 TB ones. You question to look for is:
(A) Does ESXi support advanced format drives (B) Does it support 3TB drives (C) Will it require splitting up the datastores due to the 2TB limit (might only apply to iSCSI not sure)

I would strongly suggest keeping the OS drive separate from your datastore drives (i.e. use your USB 2.0 ). If updates go wrong it can wipe out the primary datastore and all the VMs in it.

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Belphegor Sep 30, 2011 07:21 PM Reply | Bookmark
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compatibility is not a big issue with drives...

But speeds definitly is. I use 2 7200.11 in raid 0 for a test ESXi and it's pretty darn slow as soon as I have more than 1 VM running.

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Hotshot Oct 01, 2011 04:19 PM Reply | Bookmark
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I am thinking about doing both.

Quote: (Entz @ Sep 30 2011, 07:07 PM)

I would strongly suggest keeping the OS drive separate from your datastore drives (i.e. use your USB 2.0 ). If updates go wrong it can wipe out the primary datastore and all the VMs in it.


If that is the case, then wouldnt it just be worth it for me to spend $100 (only about $30 more) on a 64GB SSD and use that for my ESXi install and VM images? In other words, no point in spending $70 on a black HDD if I am only going to use like 50GB of it and never use it as a datastore...

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Entz Oct 01, 2011 06:07 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The reason I asked, is regarding pass-thru ( raw disks), I believe that as long as the system can detect the drive it would work as it is the VMs support for advanced format that matters.

No idea if you don't pass them through, but because it is based on a Linux/BSD kernel you will likely be fine.

Personally, I would use a flash drive or even go for a smaller one, like the 30gb kingston ones. You should almost never need to reboot, and you need very little space (< 4GB ).

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Hotshot Oct 01, 2011 07:48 PM Reply | Bookmark
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I am not even 100% sure what you are telling me to do...

1# Install ESXi on flash, and install OS VM's on same HDD as datastores?
2# Install ESXi on flash, and also install OS on flash?
3# Install ESXi on flash, install OS on HDD without any datastores?

I like the idea of 2# because it means my ESXi and OS wont take up a single SATA port. The only question is if pfSense would slow down sometimes because of this.

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Entz Oct 01, 2011 09:21 PM Reply | Bookmark
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All I was talking about was keeping the ESXi install drive seperate from your Virtual machine datastores.

When you install ESXi it creates a partition for itself and uses the rest of the space on the drive for the primary datastore, called "datastore1". You do not want to put anything on it if you can help it. This is of course only my opinion and only for safety. If you are careful it doesn't really matter, but using a service pack/update  CD for example and picking the wrong option can wipe the drive out (happened to me) and anything you had on it (fortunately for me there was nothing).

So say you had a 8GB flash drive. ESXi would take about 4GB for itself and leave you with 4GB in a datastore ("datastore1"). You would put nothing on datastore1.

#1 is the normal way you use ESXi . You provision a datastore from the disks you have added to the server, create  a Virtual machine and store the disks along side the vmx (virtual machine definition) files.

#2 Will work, but you can run into the issue I mentioned above (which may or may not matter to you) but unless you are using a large SSD you may not have the space -- or have limited room for growth.

To get around that you would only store the VMX files in flash and put the virtual hard drives on another datastore (or pass it raw disks).

#3 Is the way you would work with RAW disks, but you still have to store the VMX files somewhere so it is essentially the same as #2. You just use way less space on the flash/datastore1.


pfSense wont slow down unless you are trying to log a massive amount of data. It is designed to run from flash. Heck my VM server is under 100% load and pfSense has never even skipped a beat.

How are you intending on using the disks? 1 per VM or some form of RAID in a big datastore

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Hotshot Oct 01, 2011 09:44 PM Reply | Bookmark
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well at most I plan on having 3 OS'es, so in that case a 64GB will be more then enough.... but I almost want to throw it all on a 32GB flash drive to spare up a SATA port...

I plan on running two XP's (or possible one if I can get it working two two NICs the way I want it to) for my NAS. Then the other will be a single pfSense with load balancing... So even if I somehow lose those vm's, it wont be a big deal.

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Entz Oct 01, 2011 09:54 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Yeah that would be fine then.



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