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 LATEST TOPICS |  FORUMS » OPERATING SYSTEMS » TAKE AWAY THE METRO UI, WIN 8 IS A WINNE...
Subject: Take away the Metro UI, Win 8 is a winner.
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crazyea Oct 17, 2012 10:23 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I dislike the Metro UI in place of the start menu, plus I dont care for th apps at all. I am getting used to it though, only time will tell if I will actually begin to like/prefer it. also, having trouble finding things I used to find easily is annoying. Google is my friend!

- I like the search. It works great.
- I think the parent control changes are very good.
- The Task Manager is fantastic.
- It's snappy, and I'm running it on a P4 3.2 system with onboard graphics, a laptop HD and 2 GB of Ram.
- It boots very quickly.

Topic URL: http://forums.ncix.com/forums/topic.php?id=2560997

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DJZ Oct 17, 2012 10:25 AM Reply | Bookmark
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They should implement a somewhat classic UI. I just tried Win8 yesterday and it feels like a child's toy visually. Even though I'll get used to it, come on with the excessive amount of eye candy.

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Zer0 Oct 17, 2012 10:26 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Yup, here's my boot time.



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Saberon Oct 17, 2012 10:26 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I haven't kept with Windows 8 news at all. Is there no built in way to switch it to a similar Windows 7 UI and not that atrocious Metro UI?

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Kolby_G Oct 17, 2012 10:34 AM Reply | Bookmark
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No built in way, but this works good:

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

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Entz Oct 17, 2012 10:35 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I could see this happening by the time SP1 hits. Especially if they want to get business users behind it / quell the public outcry and poor sales.

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Spector Oct 17, 2012 10:35 AM Reply | Bookmark
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There was a way to do it in beta but for some reason M$ took it out. I'm sure it won't be long before somebody makes another way to do it.

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crazyea Oct 17, 2012 10:36 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Saberon.

What I did was just remove all the stuff from the metro ui that I didnt care for. Then added my frequently used programs. I have it working pretty much the same as a regular start menu, it just pops up full screen.

If I need something else on ocassion I just right click / show all apps or search using Win + Q.

Thats how I'm getting by.

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Spector Oct 17, 2012 10:38 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I don't agree with the poor sales statement. I think most, like myself will just buy it because....why? At $40 bucks a pop how can you say no.

I already did the pre-order for the physical pro edition for $70 bucks. Mainly because it was so cheap.

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Saberon Oct 17, 2012 10:40 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Didn't that turn out to be just the upgrade? What's the part number?

This message was modified by the poster at 10 17, 2012 10:43 AM

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NaX© Oct 17, 2012 10:41 AM Reply | Bookmark
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i agree that sales will be abysmal
Quote: (Spector @ Oct 17 2012, 10:38 AM)

I think most, like myself will just buy it because....why? At $40 bucks a pop how can you say no.
i said no
Quote: (Spector @ Oct 17 2012, 10:38 AM)

I already did the pre-order for the physical pro edition for $70 bucks. Mainly because it was so cheap.
go ahead, but most users will have problems with the UI; and the corporate world will stick with windows 7 (or earlier)

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Spector Oct 17, 2012 10:45 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I agree with this....Windows 7 was so good that it's going to be the staple OS for the next 10 years at least....I wouldn't be surprised if its a fair bit longer.

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Entz Oct 17, 2012 10:45 AM Reply | Bookmark
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I would expect you are in the minority, most are just going to keep Windows 7. Why spend 40-70$ per machine? I have access to it for free and I am still not even convinced I am going to use it, will see though.

When companies like Dell/HP/Lenovo etc are expecting Win8 to have a poor showing and Microsoft themselves have admitted it will be a hard sell then the outlook is not very good. I know in the business world nobody is going to touch it, bad enough getting users used to Windows 7 and even that took till SP1 till we looked at it.

Edit: fixed quotes

This message was modified by the poster at 10 17, 2012 10:46 AM

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Big-Daddy-Cool Oct 17, 2012 11:17 AM Reply | Bookmark
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There are still lots of corporate environments running XP. I work for Canada's 2nd largest bank (by assets) and we are only now beginning the Windows 7, Office 2010 destop rollout (from XP, Office 2003) - in about a year we should all be using Windows 7. Given how long 7 has been out before upgrading, I would be shocked if it did not last as long as the XP desktop did. In a company with 60-70,000 rollouts to do, and software testing for all desktop applications, new OS rollouts are a long, painful process. By then, who knows what OS will be available or what the corporate desktop would look like anyway.

I know I don't plan on upgrading the machines in my house to 8 (2 laptops and 3 desktops all on Win7). There is no reason to even think about it. If we have to upgrade or replace one down the road, we will decide then what we want to do for OS (if 7 is still available, that would likely be the choice).

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H-F Oct 17, 2012 11:23 AM Reply | Bookmark
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The Metro UI is also a piece of crap on the Xbox 360 Dashboard.

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Bored Now Oct 17, 2012 11:31 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Win 8 seems like a steeming pile of ****, tried it 3 times now and still dislike it.

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Jason * NCIX Sales Oct 17, 2012 12:43 PM Reply | Bookmark
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At first I thought I saw your Prodigy shudder like an engine when it started up

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Zer0 Oct 17, 2012 01:06 PM Reply | Bookmark
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lol, nope that was just me pressing the button. The case is pretty wobbly due to the Fyberflex feet.

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NaX© Oct 17, 2012 01:07 PM Reply | Bookmark
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'Take away the Metro UI, Win 8 is a winner. '
well here is another point - the Metro UI, or known known as the Modern UI, is a cornerstone of Windows 8
take that away and you take away one of the biggest aspects M$ is playing up regarding Windows 8

granted the boot times are supposedly better, but this is not central to M$

and M$ knows that people will modify their machines, but most keep things pretty vanilla

yes stardock with make $$$$$ off of Start8 launcher, but M$ is going to loose a lot of customers based upon how dysfunctional the vanilla OS is

imo - the desktop with start is central and the Modern UI launcher should be second
else you limit the usability of the desktop to something that would be best placed in the limits of a smart phone or tablet.

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H-F Oct 17, 2012 01:13 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Beowulf2b Oct 17, 2012 01:23 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Metro will be unproductive in the workplace so there must be a way to disable it. I know in the Beta versions you could do this in the registry.

At work we use Windows 7 and depend highly on Group policy to control everything, hopefully there will be a way to disable Metro by GPO or we will not be using Windows 8 at all.

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Beowulf2b Oct 17, 2012 01:30 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Metro will be ok for Tablet and touch screens but no advantage on a desktop using a mouse.


Completely remove Metro.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-completely-remove-metro-ui-from-windows-8/

Problem solved, Windows 8 might be a good move if it runs faster than Windows 7.

Personally I think Microsoft should have had 2 versions of Windows 8 one with the classic Windows look and the other with Metro for Touchscreen devices only.

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John_C Oct 17, 2012 01:32 PM Reply | Bookmark
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It seems odd that they would try to tack a tablet OS onto their desktop system.

With Apple iOS and MacOS are related but different, and that's how it should be.

Microsoft is trying to put it all in the same box and it's a mess. They should have just spent their time developing a great phone/tablet OS.


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justmoe1 Oct 17, 2012 02:07 PM Reply | Bookmark
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most newer computers will be preloaded with windows 8. so far only a few companies have said they are offering both. they will not have problems selling this product. the product has always sold itself. for the minority of us who install windows ourselves we will avoid it until we are faced with needing a better OS for touchscreen.

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NaX© Oct 17, 2012 02:55 PM Reply | Bookmark
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nope - start button still missing (see picture)
you got your desktop back and disabled some aspects, but your still handicapped with that application

better solution (same price); removes aspects, gives you back the desktop WITH a fully functional start button
start8 by stardock -
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

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Zer0 Oct 17, 2012 02:58 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Lol at RetroUI. It does the same job as pressing Win + D only you pay for it.

+1 for Start8

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Spudnik Oct 17, 2012 03:28 PM Reply | Bookmark
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While I have yet to try Windows 8, I really feel as if I am the only one who doesn't use the start menu. The only time I ever use it is, "Windows Key + Start Typing in the Search Box." I am told this is still the same with Metro.

All of the essential programs that I need to access that I couldn't just search or Win+R, I keep in the task bar.

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Spaceball One Oct 17, 2012 04:26 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Zero what mobo are you using? Still seems a wee bit slow compared to my Prodigy build.

I am using a Asrock Z77E-ITX.

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Ryan_T Oct 17, 2012 05:34 PM Reply | Bookmark
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every one says that it runs smoother then Win 7 on an old machine. But what about Ubuntu? I don't intend on upgrading my tower, but I have an old beater laptop that use Ubuntu on, I have a Win 7 partition solely for playing LoL, do you think win 8 would be worth it?

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NaX© Oct 17, 2012 05:36 PM Reply | Bookmark
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good point
i would like to see some benchmarks of win 7 & win 8 on new and old equipment

win 8 with start8 could be a option if indeed benches/startup times are improved

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