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 LATEST TOPICS |  FORUMS » OFF TOPIC » 'AMERICAN SNIPER' AUTHOR CHRIS K...
Subject: 'American Sniper' author Chris Kyle fatally shot at Texas gun range
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Analbumcover Feb 03, 2013 11:05 AM Reply | Bookmark
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If only someone had a gun, oh wait.
Well at least this is how he would have wanted to die.
It could have been worse. Someone could have stabbed him to death and that would just be embarrassing.

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'American Sniper' author Chris Kyle fatally shot at Texas gun range
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/03/16823532-american-sniper-author-chris-kyle-fatally-shot****texas-gun-range#comments

Updated at 1:45 p.m. ET: A former Navy SEAL who wrote "American Sniper," a best-selling book about his lethal career as a marksman in Iraq, was shot to death with another man at a gun range near Stephenville, Texas, on Saturday.

Chris Kyle, 38, and the other man were found dead at the shooting range of Rough Creek Lodge on Saturday afternoon, Texas Highway Patrol spokesman Lonny Haschel told KXAS.

The gunman, identified as Eddie Ray Routh of Lancaster, Texas, was arrested after a brief pursuit, Trooper Haschel said. The other victim was named as Chad Littlefield, aged 35.

Routh, 25, was arraigned Saturday night on two counts of capital murder, said Haschel.

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Somebody69 Feb 03, 2013 11:13 AM Reply | Bookmark
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lol whoops

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TheMachine247 Feb 03, 2013 12:43 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The american government doesn't take too kindly to people bragging about their conquests overseas it seems...

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DJZ Feb 03, 2013 12:52 PM Reply | Bookmark
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160-1.

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DJZ Feb 03, 2013 12:53 PM Reply | Bookmark
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That makes no sense because
1- They actually like it
2- What about all the other authors who did similar things and don't get assassinated?

Insane conspiracy theorists have such low standards...

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Analbumcover Feb 03, 2013 01:00 PM Reply | Bookmark
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All the supposedly random shootings weren't caused by guns because we all know guns don't kill people. Oh no. It was a plot by the government to attack the 2nd Amendment.

However this case is even far more sinister. You see Kyle was killed after Jesse Ventura put out a hit on him. Ventura alleged that Kyle defamed him in his book so Ventura sued Kyle. The lawsuit was about to go to trial but now Kyle is dead. Now Jesse Ventura, the host of Conspiracy Theory, is implicated in a conspiracy theory.

There's just so much irony here.

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Q-Ball 7 Feb 03, 2013 01:24 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Of course, that doesn't always work when you have 3 people, in a remote range, in a remote area. Guns, like the law, are speedbumps against this sort of thing; they aren't a panacea, but they're the best tools we have (or we would be using something else).

I like that you left out the most important part of the article, though it certainly wouldn't suit your purposes to mention this:

Quote: (Analbumcover @ Feb 03 2013, 11:05 AM)

"What I know is Chris and a gentleman — great guy, I knew him well, Chad Littlefield — took a veteran out shooting who was struggling with PTSD to try to assist him, try to help him, try to, you know, give him a helping hand, and he turned the gun on both of them, killing them," Cox told the AP.

Kyle's nonprofit, FITCO Cares, provides at-home fitness equipment for emotionally and physically wounded veterans.


So the guy has PTSD.
I wonder what label society gives people, especially veterans, who have this problem?
It's not like the military attitude toward the problem is "suck it up", and it's certainly not the civilian attitude that anyone with PTSD is "simply damaged goods", after all.
The help is available, but its quality is debatable; and thanks to these attitudes the affected simply don't WANT help because it is socially unacceptable to receive it.

Think about it. They went to a private range, just the 3 of them. I'd wager one of the reasons why is that he (Routh) likely doesn't want/need people to know that he needs help- shooting is a common way to relieve PTSD symptoms, after all- so they aren't going to go to a public range and have their motives questioned (Chris Kyle isn't exactly an unknown, after all).

Besides- who better to know to do this (that shooting, among other things, brings some relief to those suffering from this condition) than someone who's seen the problems people in the military face AND ABOVE THAT founded a non-profit organization to deal with the problem- otherwise he would not have taken a risk such as this and reached out his hand to help this guy in this manner. After all, nobody else Kyle has helped in this manner did this (I don't believe this was his first time shooting with a PTSD sufferer).

Mr. Kyle and his neighbour went out of their ways to help someone in need, to show concern and compassion, and a freak incident took place.

Quote: (Analbumcover @ Feb 03 2013, 11:05 AM)

Well at least this is how he would have wanted to die.

Yeah, I guess you're right.
I'd want to die helping someone, too- doing something to restore their life to workable condition or at least ease the pain they are facing.

Or maybe I should just shamelessly (and pointlessly) mock Kyle and those like him too.
After all, nobody ever needs help, so why bother to provide it in the most effective way possible?

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Analbumcover Feb 03, 2013 01:41 PM Reply | Bookmark
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This is the lunacy the rest of the world has to put up with. omg
PTSD + guns = Good Idearah

First you say people with mental illness should not have guns then you say guns is a good way to help mental illness. This reasoning speaks for itself. My brain hurted.

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Q-Ball 7 Feb 03, 2013 02:46 PM Reply | Bookmark
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I've already addressed this.
I'll show that part of my post to you again so you get it- you may have missed it the first time.
Perhaps I should post from bottom to top, so you read (and are therefore exposed to) the reasoning before you see the initial statement and discard everything else.

Besides- who better to know to do this (that shooting, among other things, brings some relief to those suffering from this condition) than someone who's seen the problems people in the military face AND ABOVE THAT founded a non-profit organization to deal with the problem- otherwise he would not have taken a risk such as this and reached out his hand to help this guy in this manner. After all, nobody else Kyle has helped in this manner did this (I don't believe this was his first time shooting with a PTSD sufferer).

Therapy is therapy. If it helps (it does in some cases- who better to know this than someone who's been in the military and seen some treatment of the problem that works ), why not try it?
He would have quite obviously done this and helped people in this manner before.

Of course, since you likely haven't ever shot before (otherwise these things would be obvious), here's a primer as to why this makes sense.
To shoot successfully:
You have to calm down.
You have to control your breathing.
You have to aim.
You have to focus on your target beyond the sights.
You have to keep the gun steady so you hit the center of what you're aiming at.
You have to control your finger on the trigger and pull it slowly (or you'll jerk the gun and miss).
You have to exert full mental focus on your body so that you will hit the target.

It is not a stressful situation, especially in a quiet, controlled environment (where there are no other people shooting, and precaution number 1).

Could the sound have set him off? We don't know at this point. (We don't know if the gun he was using was suppressed, either, though it's likely that sound reduction devices were used to lessen the possibility of this happening- precaution number 2, even simple ear protection would be enough).
Was this Routh's first time at the range? We don't know at this point. (We don't know the circumstances of the sudden mental breakdown either.)
The only thing we do know, however, is that precautions would have been taken. They did not work in this case (unlike the others he can be safely assumed to have worked on)- a freak incident, if you will.

Here is an excerpt from another (ABC) news article on this:
Quote: (Analbumcover @ Feb 03 2013, 01:41 PM)

"Kind of have an idea that maybe that's why they were at the range, for some type of therapy that Mr. Kyle assists people with, and I don't know if it's called shooting therapy," Bryant said. "I don't have any idea but that's what little bit of information that we can gather so far


Quote: (Analbumcover @ Feb 03 2013, 01:41 PM)

First you say people with mental illness should not have guns then you say guns is a good way to help mental illness.


Here's the problem: you've already assumed that this never works for anybody, in a catch-all manner.
Unfortunately, that is incorrect- I've already justified and demonstrated the reasons why the act of shooting a gun in a controlled environment will work (and has already worked) in many cases of this specific problem.

I say people with mental illness need a de-stigmatized, well-designed treatment process, so they'll actually go the first time without worrying about someone mocking them. Also, that they'll actually report as such- not just lie on the forms and have no treatment at all and then end up hurting someone.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of people who will not only mock them, but those who would help them also.

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derek_w Feb 04, 2013 10:26 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Very classy mocking a guy who has just died.

Stay classy.

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Somebody69 Feb 04, 2013 10:36 AM Reply | Bookmark
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yeah, he was a saint. i'm sure he never laughed about the civilians he killed. killed 255 people. i'm sure they were all insurgents. i'm sure those insurgents were not just trying to fight against an unjust invasion.


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derek_w Feb 04, 2013 10:45 AM Reply | Bookmark
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and you can prove that some or even 1 of his kills wasn't an insurgent?

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Insomune Feb 04, 2013 11:09 AM Reply | Bookmark
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lol, let's assume in all those kills he didn't kill one innocent, nor brag or laugh about one death to any of his mates.

let's also assume we don't live in a free country (to be debated)...

why do you post stupid things like this derek? for the post count? or is that your rebuttal? i'm confused.

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derek_w Feb 04, 2013 11:21 AM Reply | Bookmark
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Are you 10? 12? Probably not above 13.

When is it ever in a civilized world to laugh at the death of anyone? The simple answer among mature people is that you don't mock the recently deceased, but you are clearly not very mature or civilized. The headlines surrounding this guy's death are ironic enough for thinking people. Bringing extra attention to the irony is idiotic and unnecessary. Anyone with moderate decorum would just shut up...at least for a few days.

There are plenty of people that I wouldn't shed a single tear for if they died right now, but it is completely distasteful and classless to make fun of them when their bodies aren't even cold yet.

Again, stay classy. You are demonstrating pure class. I expect this sort of garbage on Youtube comments.

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Insomune Feb 04, 2013 12:01 PM Reply | Bookmark
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lol, you open with more ridicule instead of debate, you are quite an idiot sir.

are you crying for the kids in Syria or even thinking about them?

do I have to have empathy for everyone on this planet when I don't agree with them as a character or their values/morals? obviously not.

was I laughing? can you show me the quote please? that "lol" was for your "waste of time" comment because with Abc's post, you do the same thing and make such a naive assumption that he's mocking his death instead of trying to bring light to a topic of debate that's been going on in these forums for the last few years, long before sandy hook.

and I never said it was 'civilized' either, moron. you're great at reading between non-existent lines.

attacking me, the person and not the comment and you talk about class? laf.

his death is worth respect, f' that? what his charitable organization did, sure.

and I don't laugh at recently deceased people,


just dumb comments, but another classy assumption by you.

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Analbumcover Feb 06, 2013 09:00 AM Reply | Bookmark
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For the Ron Paul's out there:

Quote: (Analbumcover @ Feb 03 2013, 01:41 PM)

Republicans lash out at Ron Paul for tweet regarding Navy SEAL’s death
http://rt.com/usa/news/paul-tweet-death-chris-502/

Routh served tours in Iraq and was reportedly brought to the shooting range as a means of treating his post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD.

“Chad and Chris had taken a veteran out to shoot to try to help him,” a friend of Kyle’s adds to the Times, “And they were killed.”

Rep. Paul, a veteran himself, openly responded to the news on Monday, tweeting that afternoon from his cRonPaul Twitter account.

“Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that ‘he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.’ Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense,” he wrote.

Less than two days after the congressman made the remark, Rep. Paul’s comment has been retweeted nearly 1,000 times. Addressing Kyle’s death only hours after the incident occurred, however, the quip caused a backlash of sorts by many, including fellow Republicans, who felt offended by the former lawmaker’s remark.

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Jarno Feb 06, 2013 02:18 PM Reply | Bookmark
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The gun was just a tool, the crazy bastard with ptsd killed to people. It's not the pistol's fault

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