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 LATEST TOPICS |  FORUMS » OFF TOPIC » CBC DOCZONE : GENERATION JOBLESS & BIG B...
Subject: RE: CBC DocZone : Generation Jobless & Big Box Mart closes stores
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Analbumcover Feb 02, 2013 11:05 AM Reply | Bookmark
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So after watching the documentary, they spent about 35 minutes focusing on education and about 10 minutes about the actual job market, employment trends, capitalism, etc. It really was just a token mention about the symptoms of capitalism. My guess is that they have a lot more students and people from universities willing to talk about education than they do business people ready to admit their faults, greed, and the ruthless pursuit of individual profit.

A subject that was interesting was the comparison to Switzerland where the youth unemployment rate is 2.8%. In Switzerland, at the equivalent of middle school, students have to decide between the academic route or the apprenticeship route. The academic route is more rigorous and they only allow 20% of applicants through. In the apprenticeship route, the employer has to design the apprenticeship course and must meet certain criteria before it gets government approval. They typically last 3 years and most students will have completed their first program at 18 years leaving plenty of time to transition if it's the wrong fit. You see the heavy hand of government in the regulation and subsidization of education in Switzerland which the capitalists would call "socialism".

Sidenote: The gun lovers love to bring up Switzerland and yet Switzerland according to them would be a socialist hell hole with their universal health care and government regulation and subsidization of education.

The fact is any new laws made now is not going to come soon enough for this generation and yes it is a lost generation. The boomers will eventually retire and who is left to take their place? Generation Jobless? Unfortunately, things have to get to a crisis before anything gets done. Canada under the Conservatives is actually going the American capitalist route and actively recruiting/competing for foreigners. Ironic, isn't it? The Conservatives tout capitalism but when there is a skilled labour shortage they want to recruit foreigners from countries whose government subsidize education.



So you can just forget about any help from Harper and the Cons. They want you dead.
VIVE LE CAPITALISM, eh?!

I saw comments about Big Box Mart closing 15 stores and they were all smug about shopping in the USA for better deals. When do we get the same deals as the USA? When Canada has the same living standards and becomes a hell hole like the USA. The minimum wage people that work in the USA have no benefits, most likely illegal immigrants, work on a temp basis, and generally exploited more so than in Canada but don't worry it's coming here.

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Alter3d Reality Feb 02, 2013 12:39 PM Reply | Bookmark
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You realize that the "universal health care" system in Switzerland is pretty capitalist in its model, right? In fact, it works pretty much like car insurance does here in Canada (at least in most provinces) -- you're required to have a certain minimum coverage, but you can choose any provider you want based on deductibles, additional coverage, price, etc.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/04/29/why-switzerland-has-the-worlds-best-health-care-system/
Swiss citizens buy insurance for themselves; there are no employer-sponsored or government-run insurance programs. Hence, insurance prices are transparent to the beneficiary. The government defines the minimum benefit package that qualifies for the mandate. Critically, all packages require beneficiaries to pick up a portion of the costs of their care (deductibles and coinsurance) in order to incentivize their frugality.

99.5% of Swiss citizens have health insurance. Because they can choose between plans from nearly 100 different private insurance companies, insurers must compete on price and service, helping to curb health care inflation.


Now compare that to the model here in Canada, where healthcare costs whatever the government says it costs, and you have to pay, period, and you have no choice to pick a package that is tailored for your individual needs.

Switzerland gets it right, but not because they're hardcore socialists. They understand that the capital market provides choice and cost-competitiveness.

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DJZ Feb 02, 2013 02:17 PM Reply | Bookmark
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An economic system can't feasibly be "DIRECTLY" responsible for "mass genocide". Have some intellectual honesty. Communism is as responsible for Zedong's famine and Stalin's purge as capitalism is responsible for Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and more recently Bush's war crimes, and the US's, the UK's and France's many coups and implantation of puppet "democracies" all over the world through various methods, some of them dirtier and more murderous than others.

Just because capitalism won doesn't mean you should be blind to its many, MANY wrongdoings.

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DJZ Feb 02, 2013 02:29 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Nothing screams die hard free market capitalism like a mandatory, universal government funded health insurance, regulated by a federal body, which can be supplemented by additional private coverage which tends to have more to do with comfort than quality of service.

Also they can't set conditions based on age or gender or any such factors. Competitiveness? LOL. The private firms are almost entirely dependent on whatever legislation the government passes. They're crippled private firms that might as well be public.

So yeah there's a tiny little bit of competition. But welcome to one of the most socialized healthcare systems ever. The Swiss pay mad taxes for this, and they have a little bit of heavily regulated wiggle room.

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Yoinkerman Feb 02, 2013 02:57 PM Reply | Bookmark
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That sounds more like ICBC and less like a free market with minimum coverage.

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Analbumcover Feb 02, 2013 03:08 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Lying by omission that's just intellectually dishonest, cowardly, and just proves your character.

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Clucker Feb 02, 2013 10:41 PM Reply | Bookmark
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Come on we all know switzerland has all the worlds money. they have a small manageable population and huge tourism dollars. then their government cares for them and they dont allow in immigrants who bogg down the system. new immigrants cost canada at 6 billion dollars a year. no immigrants and we could build hospitals everywhere within five years. just look at england, they are letting in immigrants in like crazy so they can go on social assistance. its crapping out their system. sorta like china and their huge number of twealthy people. one billion people working for nothing and if they turned a profit of one dollar a day to their boss then we would have an increase of one billion dollars in chinese wealth. thats why you walk downtown vancouver and see so many hongers. can it get simpler than that?

Its called diversion of money. thats how the world works. not this salary talk that we are so accustomed to. now u can see why multi nationals like to milk other countries and why the us invades for oil. its to divert wealth to themselves. so switzerlands success os not simply because they have a good system. its cause they are naturally wealthy. argue about it all u want.

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Cemel Feb 02, 2013 11:09 PM Reply | Bookmark
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pretty accurate for any ncix location if not better lol

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