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Quote: (Clucker @ Jan 31 2013, 12:11 PM)
Stop covering for people who get an Arts degree.
I watched the brief trailer on the CBC website and while there is the token mention of capitalism (though never by name) the majority of the documentary seemed to focus on the education aspect as if the CBC wanted universities/colleges/etc. to guarantee a job upon completion of education. It was all blame the education system, we need reforms, blah blah blah. It was never the true cause, capitalism, even though they mention the symptoms (i.e. globalization, outsourcing, using technology to cut labour costs/jobs for more profit and never lowering prices mind you, unwillingness to invest and train young people again in the name of profits, and those who can't afford to retire for lack of pension and having to compete with young people). The fact is that we have the technology for everyone on planet Earth to have their basic necessities met. Of course, that technology is only for the benefit of the individual and for profit a la capitalism. Technology of course is not bad. It's when all the benefits of which are not shared.
Quote: (Clucker @ Jan 31 2013, 12:11 PM)
Some of you can blame capitalism all that you want, but at least it isn't DIRECTLY (indirect effects are a different story entirely) responsible for mass genocide of tens and tens of millions of people like communism has historically been.
The American colonials broke from the British because they were not allowed to own land. They got their hands on guns. Exiled the British. Took the Natives' land and never looked back. After continental USA was stolen, the Americans went on to claim the rest of the world. The Vietnam War was fought in the name of "preserving capitalism". Countless poor people died, workers abused, and land stolen in the name of capitalism. Poor people are still dying in the USA for purely material reasons in the supposedly richest nation on Earth.
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Quote: (Sdalmonte m Jan 31 2013, 12:50 PM)
As with everything in the world in capitalism, there is supply and demand. I'm guessing the demand for German Literature and Art History majors is very low.
In my field, Electrical Engineering, there's a major shortage of talent in Canada right now...
People get sucked into the argument and place all emphasis on education or choice of education as if education were the most critical factor in gainful employment.
By the logic of supply and demand, the only reason why the successful are successful is because they were the few to choose that specific field so if everyone else then got the idea to crowd their field, then they would become a deadbeat.
So then how do you solve this problem of inflow and outflow? Keep sending people back to school that is very expensive and programs can last 4-10 years and by that time the employment picture could have changed drastically again? It's not a problem of personal choice and you people always trying to pin the blame on the little guy. It's the fact that even if you do pick the right field, education is very expensive and there is no guarantee of a job. Who has the money, time, energy, etc. to keep constantly changing fields?
This is capitalism.
Specifically, to your point about a major shortage of talent in Canada, there is no shortage of talent in Canada only an artificially created one. Countless qualified foreign individuals end up leaving Canada because they can't get their credential recognized and not from some "3rd world" country either. This includes European states. This is because the professional bodies/colleges that govern a specific field in Canada know that if they let in foreigners to do their job, their wages would be slashed. They know how to play capitalism. They also have an interest in keep domestic tuition rates high again to keep out people from coming into their field.
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Quote: (Yoinkerman @ Jan 31 2013, 10:12 PM)
Man I see it now, you're totally right, the answer is more people in poverty!
To misquote Churchill, "capitalism is the worst form of economic system, except for all of the others that have been tried from time to time".
I was debating an issue of politics the other day with a good friend. As often happens, we fundamentally agree on the core issues, but where we get a good debate going is over the actual implementation of things. Anyways, he asked me a question about my position on the topic at hand, and we kicked off a debate around it, because he disagreed with my solution to the problem. After about 15 minutes, he made some point of his own, ostensibly to support his position, and I just said "Do you realize that the argument you've just constructed actually agrees with the position on which I predicated this debate?" (This was over IM, so it was even easy to go back and read what I'd typed). He came back and said ".... so it does. Hmm..." Then there was about 2 minutes of silence. Then he typed "I disagree with you... but I can't think of a better alternative."
That's kind of what democracy and capitalism are like. Everybody whines and moans about how crappy the system is, blah blah blah, then when you say "Propose a system that will actually work in real life to replace it", you get crickets. It's the best of a bad lot of choices.
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